Death Star defense
Adywan’s Revisited Star Wars editions involve a bit of editing and a lot of computer work, resulting in some great enhancements to the original films. One of his greatest additions is a much more sizable compliment of TIE fighters in the Death Star / Yavin battle. Enjoy the video here.
Adywan’s Star Wars A New Hope Revisited.
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just brilliant 😀
I could totally hear Peter Cushing making a sarcastic aside like that. Love it.
Sarcastic? I thought he was serious.
At first I didn’t get it. But then I did. I guess I got too stuck on the thousands of TIE fighters, and couldn’t figure out why it was too bad that they were too small for turbo lasers. (What, too small to be equipped with turbo lasers? Yeahhh, I guess sooo…) Apparently I’m not completely awake yet.
Actually, Tarkin’s line is playing off the line from an earlier strip in the film where an officer tells Vader that the Rebel fighters are too small for “their” (Imperial turrets) turbo lasers. Tarkin was complaining that Vader’s ship was too small for him to shoot.
Im afraid i have to disagree with the idea of adding more TIE’s to the battle of yavin. Considering that Vader’s Black Squadron pretty much DECIMATED the rebel fighters to that of 30 or so that launched only THREE plus the falcon made it back to yavin IV. this is also maintained by both lucas AND numerous authors who have worked on the various versions of the RPG (1st and 2nd ed. by WEG, as well as the numerous D20 versions) 1 to 1, X-wings have the advantage, 3 or 4 to one (standard TiE wolfpack tactics im afraid) the rebels lose their advantages (shields and whatnot) and you are assured of a defeat. its pretty much luck and overconfidence on the imperials part that the first Death Star was destroyed and that the attack itself was a suicide mission.
Can’t say I see the logic here. Regardless how efficient Vader’s “Black Squadron” were (hey, one of his wingmen flew into him when he got distracted!) you have to remember that the Death Star was destroyed. More TIE fighters deployed (of the seven thousand available vs 30 rebel ships) would have won the logistical argument you’re making. And more TIE fighters would have reduced the Millenium Falcon’s chances of sailing in and aiding Luke at the right moment. More TIE fighters would have reduced Han Solo’s moments of opportunity, if not preventing them all. But ultimately, the point is that that the Death Star had far greater resources to deploy and it failed to do so. Turbo lasers were ineffectual giving the Imperial command the opportunity to reassess the situation and make adjustments to their defensive strategy.
I’ve got to be honest with here, you are brilliant. I am, sorry guys but sick of people who comment to see the flaw in your jokes, it’s a paraody, I love it, one of the best webcomics I’ve seen.
Thanks, Kadrinalage. I didn’t take Amronaroke’s comments in a negative way. It was just his outlined thoughts on the logistics of the Death Star and i appreciate friendly discussion. We have had some harsh comments in the past (before the site went down) but those come with the territory. But I certainly don’t have any problem with Amronaroke’s points and I also very much appreciate the support. We have some great strips lined up for the next month to wrap up ANH. We hope you’ll continue to enjoy.
that said tho, i do approve of the jokes made in the actual strip itself.
I can just see Tarkin twitching in those quickly cut scenes because he is wondering why the rebels are still out there. 🙂
actually, i was referring to his friends A new hope revisited. not the comic. the comic, in all honesty, is brilliant in my opinion, and points out a lot of flaws with the whole star wars series. logistically. yah, 30 ships plus the falcon, i would have launched everything at my disposal to protect a valuable military asset. also, when folks accuse you of swiping jokes (like the one with luke and leia on the falcon over Obi-wan’s death) that joke just writes itself. as for saving biggs, well..sorry. biggs has to die so gavin can upstage him im afraid.
Oh, in regards to Adywan’s “revised” Star Wars editions, I have myown qualms with a few of his decisions, but overall the experience is a good one. For example, the use of the Imperial March during the entirely new and “suped up” version of the “Imperial fighters heading your way…” really does not belong in ANH. The Imperial March didn’t come about until TESB and it is part of the signature of Middle and End of the trilogy. However, being such a great theme, its sudden and powerful inclusion in this eye candy addition gave me goosebumps in a good sort of way.
Some of the other changes I disagree with include things like “correcting” the color of the Rebel Alliance logo on the rebel pilot helmet. It appears blue as the cockpit is closing in the Massassi Temple hangar. Adywan seems to think this is an error that needs fixing, but it is common for variations on military logos to indicate rank or department. Porkins has a gold version of the Rebel Alliance logo. So why change something that might not only have been intentional, but gives the film a touch of realism. In real life few things are perfectly uniform… especially, I wager, among a rag tag group of rebels.
Ressurection of the necro-thread (new reader, going through the archives. I wish I’d known about this strip long ago)!
Two points as well–among other things, these are *veterans*, who often use their seniority to customize their gear (I mean, consider how often Luke customized his personal X-wing, much like how his dad modded *his* fighter). Plus, weren’t those logo colors *also* supposed to indicate what Wing they were in, Red, Gold, Blue, Greeen, whatever?
I’M AMAZED! What an incredible achievement. He’s actually improved on excellence.
Doesn’t Vader’s TIE fighter have cup holders???
No, it has a self contained brewing system with a tube in Vader’s helmet so every sip is as fresh as the first. First class, all the way.
This project is exactly what I have been looking for to further my passion for Star Wars. All the commentary is pithy and insightful!
This doesn’t change the fact that there weren’t enough, but I always assumed there were a lot more off camera, just like we only ever see a few of the 30 Rebel ships, except in that one Yavin-in-the-background shot. (and I would be shocked if there were actually 30 ships in that shot)
You want logic? Take into account actual fighter pilot strategy then, what the Imperials did was 100% correct for the situation given. You can not launch a thousand fighters in pursuit of a handful of fighters that creates chaos and will result in more needless friendly deaths either from accident or friendly fire. Plus it gives the rebels more breathing room as the Imperials have to sort out who attacks who and win since, as always there’s limited space. There’s a reason in the real world pilots only engage other fighters in groups of 2 some times 3. Also consider this the Imperials have no clue why the Rebels are launching this attack, they assume it’s some diversionary tactic for escaping rebels or vain a battle to earn them places in history as martyrs for the rebel cause. For they are unaware completely of the danger of the exhaust port, which wasn’t in the original blueprints anyway. So sending Vader to Mop up 30 pilots which he does in about 5 minutes was reasonable tactical choice.
Oh sonce, I’ll probably get nitpicked about them being aware of the danger they found that out at the last second, with Vader closing in on the final kills, victory seeming assured and would have been if not for Han. So blame it on a Grand Moff’s Ego/vanity. Though to be honest even if he did react to it all he could have done at that moment was evacuate part of the Death Star, if he scrambled Ties it would have been too late and everyone dies anyway.
Great insight. But I think you’re taking the intent of this obvious parody webcomic way too seriously. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. It’s harmless fun with the scenes we all know and love. 🙂